Some Paragraphs from Jack Kerouac’s “On the Road”
Some of my favourite lines from the Book:
“The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow Roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars, and in the middle, you see the blue center-light pop, and everybody goes ahh…”
“what we need is a drink!” yelled Rickey, and off we went to a crossroads saloon. Americans are always drinking in crossroads saloons on Sunday afternoon; they bring their kids; they gabble and brawl over brews; everything’s fine. Come nightfall the kids start crying and the parents are drunk….This is we did. Rickey and I and Ponzo and Terry sat drinking and shouting with the music; little baby Johnny goofed with other children around the jukebox. The sun began to get red. Nothing had been accomplished. What was there to accomplish? ‘Manana’ said Rickey. ‘Manana man, we make it; have another beer, man, dah you go, dah you go!”
I especially like this paragraph, what a nice way to describe the temptation of deferring things 
A Nice Historical Document on 27 May 1960 Military Coup
A Nice Document, Rare and historical from the web-bloc:
http://koken-tanklove.blogspot.com/2009/03/kansiz-ihtilal-scanned-pages-1.html
AgrI-SIzI-ve-inishler-chIkIshlar
Ana dilinde yazmak, evet biraz da bu alana yogunlasmak gerekli diye düsündüm biraz evvel. Girdap’tan kurtulmanin yollari nelerdir diye düsünüyordum, Türkce yazmayi düsünmeden önce. Aklima gelen ilk cözüm, dimdik yukari gökyüzüne bakmak.
Sagrada Familia de Barcelona
Sometimes wandering in a foreign city, I am after a specific surprise effect. I experienced it first in my youth, due to our visits to the Agean region, and the antic Greek ruins. The pictures I saw, turns suddenly into reality. But the best part, is the unexpectedness of the surprise effect.
In Ephesus, when you walk along the Grand Anfi Theatre, you sense the Celsus Library is somewhere near. But you dont see it, it is hidden. When you reach the end of the straight marmor stoa, on the right hand side, you at once see the Celsus. It is a stunning surprise.
As I was 20, in my first visit to London, I got off from the embankment tube station I guess, and i was walking on the grand steet. I remember the excitement, where was Big Ben. I could see on the map it was just near. I was so excited that in the crowd before the corner, I asked the Policeman, Where is the Big Ban?, He said, take your time and your camera out, it’s just at the corner right there. I walked and I was big time stunned. A sudden rush of seratonin and the feeling of flying one step above.
I had a similar feeling in Barcelona, as we were walking to the Sagrada Familia of Gaudi. To be honest, I was no fan of Gaudi before, I thought it was also similar to Hundertwasser what I saw in Vienna and somewhere in West Germany. However, after seeing Parl Güell, I was really in to him. As we were walking slowly and chatting I realised that our host was slowing down, and on the left hand side, I saw her, the Sagrada Familia. This is what I saw, but it does not show what I felt. It was just that stunning surprise, the feeling I chase in journeys.
Distorted Intersubjectivities
Inspiration does not come by invitation, it comes by intuition
Some time ago, a Turkish academic told me an incident he experienced, during the “Cumhuriyet Mitingleri” times. On a sunny Sunday morning he went to a Turkish “bakkal” to gather some daily papers. He said, he bought “Taraf, Hürriyet, Radikal, Yeni Safak” and if I dont remember false “Zaman”. As he was just to pay the bill, an elderly, visibly secular, and I would argue in some way a beleiver in some “specific” image of Kemalism, looked at him in strange eyes. She asked, I have never seen something like this, why are you buying those newspapers. He understood that she was mentioning the Islamist press. He responded calmly and said, it is important to read what people of different mentalities thing.
Yesterday, as I was opening up some internet newspaper websites for my father, he said to me, you dont need this newspaper. I said which one, he said, yenisafak. I asked why not? arent you curious to see what they think about, he said, i can imagine what they think about, I dont need that, honestly, thank you. I was a little bit stunned, because, his library is full of authors of diverse reigns, and he was just reading “Piyale” from the Ottoman script before he asked me to open the internet for him.
I was jut reading Ertugrul Özkök’s article on Akif Beki, and at the end of the article he tells an incident he experienced with Sedat Ergin. He asked Ergin whether he read Arif Beki’s last article, and he responded, I dont read him.
The blind adherence to one’s weltanschauung would bring with it a certain ideological perspective, which can portray quite aurhoritarian tendencies. The technology of perception, though living in 2009, could still be inspired from quite Machiavellian perspectives. the millenial good and bad, evil and god. When i read the Islamist media, I also mark a strange distaste to the ideas of the “other” bloc, as vice-versa.
Turkey is a land of distorted intersubjectivities, wherein, an authoritarian paternalistic culture superimposes itself on modern day concepts and perspectives. Though the widespread acceptance of the technology of thinking is absorbed, in terms of collective imaginations it is visibly distorted.
When we look at Turkish political parties, I can see petit-Machiavellians, in Turkish “cakma Sultanlar” – fake Sultans. I can see the same intersubjectivity of being an omnipotent “leader”, superimposed upon a bumbastic version of Islamic inspired capitalism or a fascinating misreading of Mustafa KEMAL Atatürk, or some other visibly fascist ethnic nationalisms.
The disconnection of social groups and the lack of organic intellectuals who could bring conflicting parties together through consensus and acquiesence on certain norms and principles, this is what I see.
Isn’t it strange that nobody still cannot agree the term of the Presidency. Isn’t it strange that top level politicians refuse to salute themselves even in highly ceremonial and unitary incidents?
Some time ago, I was reading the memoirs of retired diplomat and former Turkish Undersecratary of Foreign AffairsErcüment Yavuzalp. He recalls a memory, back from 1958, about an incident that took place in the reception of the Indian Embasy in Ankara in honor of Nehru’s visit to Turkey. At some time, the Minister of Interior, Namik Gedik, upon seeing the leader of the oppsition party (CHP), Ismet Inönü, hurried leaves the reception. Yavuzalp, asks the Minister about what had happened, and he responds “Out of blue, I saw that “individual.” At once I left the meeting.” After a half century, I can see no slide of change in the manner of the highest echelons, and as a consequence in the society complex.
I am looking at some webpages, about articles on “hot” themes, but especially I am reading the comments posted by the readers. The enmity is visible. Last week I was at a Panel Discussion in Berlin. One member of the pro-Kurdish DTP, was talking about the sickness of Turkishness, dangerous identities. Another Turkish intellectual was trying to remind the need not to use provocating sentences. I sometimes guess, whole Turkey needs “Gewaltfreiekommunikation” courses.
Together Through Life
I have been together through life with bob dylan, consciously since 1999. The first Dylan song i heard, and tried to understand and explain was “Blowing in the Wind”. Since then, “things have changed”, and “most of the time” I repetitively listen to Dylan’s songs. This month, he will be out once again, with his new album “Together through life.”
Here is some links for digging in
Listen to the Song: http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211#?t=18540585001&l=25152707
Dylan talks about the new album with Bill Flanagan: http://www.bobdylan.com/#/conversation?page=1
Alex Ross: Music Critic of the New Yorker: http://www.therestisnoise.com/2009/03/new-dylan.html
Dylan talks with the “the Times” on Obama and his new album: http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6043331.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1
Los Angeles Times’ Music Critic Ann Powers: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/03/snap-judgment-b.html
Mojo’s Michael Simmons: http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2009/03/new_dylan_album_our_first_list.html
Futurology, The Beginning of a new era? Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu and Istanbul
Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu became the epicentre of the CHP in the aftermath of the 2007 elections. The CHP leadership realised after a decade that radical Kemalist rhetoric had a powerbase of 20% and had to be amended if the CHP aims to lead Turkey one day in the future. The new policy was based upon emphasising the corruption allegations about the ruling AKP instead of continiously blaming them to be anti-secular. To note, the course of the Ergenekon and the failure of the “radical” politics had a profound effect on this re-orientation. Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu’s star shined with this new policy, he was the man who would carry out the systematic eradication of the AKP’s “AK-clear” image. He was successful in various cases and put an end to the leadership of leading figures within the AKP, such as the Dengir case. His live-debate with the current Ankara municipal governor Ibrahim Melih Gökcek.
The debate was the beginning of a fight between to mental imaginations, one representing the old regime’s myth of staying clean and working for the good of the people, the “Halk” partisi image and the other representing the new social forces and their boosted ego in the aftermath of the 2007 elections. Melih Gökcek’s lawlesness and his lack of shame int he face of the allegations were paramount, and even irritated his own leadership. Kılıçdaroğlu on the other hand, represents the “Ecevit” image in Turkish politics, that good, non-corruptable, “clean” politician who is also a common man in his social life.
The nomination of Kılıçdaroğlu as the candidate of the CHP for the metropolitan city of Istanbul may be the beginning of a new era in Turkish politics. The potential win of Kılıçdaroğlu will bring with it a five-year transition process within the CHP. Kılıçdaroğlu, as the new leader of “Istanbul” the gateway to transnational ruling elite would enable him to open himself to the new realities, and devleop a social democratic integration intot he world structures. The Obama factor is crucial at this point, instead of a Hamas loving leadership, a delicate and social democratic Turkey similar to that of Gonzales’ Spain would be more acceptable also for the EU. The end of Kılıçdaroğlu’s term will be his elavation as the leader of the CHP.
I will continue to think about this theme this week.
Tip of the Iceberg: Hilmi Özkök and internal dynamics of the Turkish Army
Last week, Ertugrul Özkök of the Hürriyet Daily Newspaper reflected an anecdote he heard from former Chief of the Naval Forces Ilhami Erdil (Erdil was trialled during his tenure due to misuse of his post and forced out of the army). Erdil told Özkök, that after every National Security Council meeting, the chief commanders meet in one of their houses and have dinner together, to discuss the meeting and to relax. Erdil explained Özkök that Hilmi Özkök was actually not drinking alcohol was pretending to do so, which was revealed by then Chief of Staff Kivrikoglu during the dinner. This is one of the various attacks on Hilmi Özkök and his style of dealing with the so-called Islamists.
What is more interesting is Hilmi Özkök remarks on this incident. He sent a letter to Radikal’s Murat Yetkin. I quote:
“”I was not built to be ordinary or to choose the easier way, nor do my background and education support that. Had I acted like everybody else, everyone would leave me alone today and I would be enjoying a happy retirement. But I was not ordinary. I chose to be a good observer. I chose not to be condescending to others and took lessons from the things they did. I chose to improve what I thought was good and find new methods for what I thought was inadequate.
I always strived to realize goals worthy of Turkey and its glorious military. ” My experience with working in international command centres gave me the opportunity to see various approaches. I always tried to apply these to the military instead of opting for the ease of continuing the practices of the past.
I never did any of this to look different. Perhaps I was misunderstood because I couldn’t express myself very well. I became a target of accusations by people who thought I was opposing them. Some really did not understand, while others acted as if they did not understand in order to continue their ‘lion trainer’ role.”
I always made an effort to avoid involving the military in politics, staying faithful to my oath. I did not do anything the law forbade me to do, but I did everything the law told me to do in the best way I could. The irony is that there were those who fought me for not openly fighting with the government; there were those who condemned me for being a democrat; there were those who were not pleased with me doing my duty to protect the interests of the military behind closed doors. But they would have been applauding me had I gotten into battles of words. I never felt that I needed to kowtow to anyone.
“Those who ignored me, saying that ‘the effect won’t change as long as the cause stays in place,’ accused me of being silent against [Islamic fundamentalism]. But the reality was that Feb. 28 was an unavoidable move that was demanded by the conditions of the day. I would never blame them for anything. What’s more, those officers did not have a Feb. 28 experience to rely on from the past. But I did have such an experience from the past. I have seen, how things done for the goodwilll by purging others opened the road of the others as well. Looking back at the events of the past, that when the military touches politics, this causes ‘tremendous benefit’ for politics and politicians in this country. This is why my style was different.”
The letter clearly shows the inside games within the Army. we will continue to comment on this letter.
The niveau of Discussions in Turkey and the issue of Intersubjectivities
Intersubjectivities can be summarised briefly as “those shared notions of the nature of social relations which tend to perpetuate habits and expectations of behaviour” (Cox, 2007, 516). Intersubjectivities can be taken as the fundamental upon which social discourses take place, they are in a way the reflections of the common sense at a definitive place and time. They frame the possibilities of discussions, and possible options, they draw the limits of possible. They are not unique nor they are essentials which are constant in time and close to change. They are a part of the human mind, and as the human mind modifies itself through the contact with the material conditions in which it finds itself, they do change. We can discern the historical evolution of these intersubjectivities and by doing so we can (if we wish to) strive to change them through political action.
Controversial issues and the discussions that took place around them is a time of photo opportunity for the curious intellectual. The more controversial the issue the more sentimental and natural the discussion. They are the gateway to understand the niveau of the discussions and intersubjectivities shared by people who feel themselves mentally belong to a specific groups of social forces.
In Turkey such a discussion began to take place during the last week, following such a controversial campaign on a even more controversial issue.
Some independent intellectuals of Turkey, decided to sign a petition to present their excuse for the neglect of research and action on the issue of the ‘Grreat Tragedy’ the Armenian people experienced during the 1915. Turkey sometimes digs her head in the ground and behave like the three-monkeys, never heard, never saw, never spoken about it. Since the last decade, the issue of the Armenian tragedy was officially forgotten. If yes, then it is portrayed as a case in which Ottoman Armenians collaborated with the Russians and other enemies during the First War and hence forces to leave their home and deported to south of the Ottoman Empire. The Turkish state officially accepts that there were a number of death, this was due to bad weather and famine. In no ways, an assault on the population took place. Anyone questioning this would have to bear harsh criticisms and be labelled as a traitor.
The President Gül, commented on the campaign and he said that it is good for the maturing of the Turkish democracy. Paradoxically, a parliamentarian from the allegedly social democrat, member of the Socialist International, the party of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the Cumhuriyet Halk Partisi. She is a member of Parliament from the most social-democrat city of Turkey, the secular castle of Izmir. She commented that one has to search the President’s mother’s families ties, to understand the President’s smooth respond to the campaign. She by no means meant that the mother of the President is to be an Armenian. This kind of a fascist tone that easily pronounced by such a lady MP. This is the time to shoot the film, and to take a snapshot of the intersubjectivities in Turkey.
During the last 5 years, I have been seeing a proliferation of Turkish flags in houses and streets in Turkey. Sometimes these are near the autobahns, on the mountains and at the balconies of houses. One can have the feeling that Turkey just came out of the war gloriously. In the last 10 years, private TV channels are pumping nationalist images through bad-quality Turkish series. The character is mostly a Turkish and Muslim hero, fighting against the bad word of underground or PKK or even the United States. Crazyheart they call this kind of people.
This is a new dimension of the intersubjectivity in Turkey. The Sevres Syndrome, which always seeks external enemies behind all actions in Turkey, and such intellectuals were mostly seen as collaborative of external agents. They can be puppets of SOROS, of CIA and the covert world. They cannot have their own idea and own motivation to question an issue in Turkey, it is impossible because it is an intersubjectively acceptance that there is always a plot against the Turkish state.
The President’s reply, is another wonderful moment of photography. A sudden rush of sentimentality. The President officially announced his family tree, and shared with the people, that he was a Muslim and a Turk. So he officially certified his identity. He was not an Armenian, as if being an Armenian is something bad. How can she blame her mother as Armenian? I would be happy if the conversation ended here, but it went, I am a Muslim Turk, i cannot be an Armenian. Both parts of the discussion illustrate the niveau of discussions in Turkey nowadays.
Prime Minister Erdogan was again fantastic on his comments about the issue. He said, “They must have committed genocide because they are apologizing. The Turkish Republic has no such problem.” – “We cannot join a campaign such as this just because writers started it. Personally I do not accept their campaign, nor take part in it. We did not commit any crime, why should we apologize? This is a debate discussed by historians.”
Eric Hobsbawm Interview at the Christopher Lydon’s Open Source
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In an hour’s conversation in Hobsbawm’s house in Hampstead Heath, we didn’t have time to revisit the famously exotic dimensions of his life: his quasi-religious attachment to Communism and his fascination with jazz, or the polar views of the man and his work. Link here to the loving, the venomous and the measured. Hobsbawm’s bookshelves groan with a lot of my favorite jazz tomes, like Stanley Dance’s The World of Count Basie, and Robert Gottlieb’s collection, Reading Jazz. I am sending him Arthur Taylor’s marvelous interviews with the post-Parker jazz stars through the Civil Rights revolution, Notes and Tones. But in the time we had, it seemed best to hear the crunchy numbers and sweeping authority that are acknowledged from all points of the history profession — not least from his young opposite number, the neo-imperialist Niall Ferguson .
I asked him to speak of the themes in his pithy new book: On Empire: America, War and Global Supremacy. I said it’s still mysterious to me that Tony Blair and long post-imperial Britain followed President Bush and the United States into Iraq.”
Direct quote from:
http://www.radioopensource.org/the-post-imperial-historian-eric-hobsbawm/
The interview:
http://odeo.com/episodes/22147671-The-Post-Imperial-Historian-Eric-Hobsbawm
Eric Hobsbawm Comments on the World Economic Crisis – BBC
Is the intellectual opinion of capitalism changing? British Marxist historian Eric Hobsbawm, “arguably our greatest living historian” according to the New York Review, discusses the current economic crisis and the problems with a free market economy.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7677000/7677683.stm
Hannah Arendt interview in ARTE
check this interview at
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjeb8_hannah-arendt-in-new-york_life
Yasar Kemal at the Presidential Palace
Online speech of Turkish author Yasar Kemal
http://yenisafak.com.tr/video/?i=154261
Annais Nin
Two nice web-pages on the famous diarist and writer Annais Nin.
http://www.anaisnin.com/home.html
http://www.anais-nin.de/
Photo taken from:
http://gc.astrology.com/gc/starstories/17331/Anais-Nin.jpg
Deniz Baykal’s Metamorphosis
One day, as Deniz Baykal was waking up from anxious dreams in which his rival T. Erdogan repetitively defeated him in the elections, he discovered that in bed he had been changed into a tolerant-peace loving politician. The first thing that came to his mind was to recruit as many as women with headscarf to the Republican People’s Party – Chumhuriyet Halk Partisi. With this enthusiasm he jumped out of the bed and headed to the Party headquarters. Whilst in the car he told the driver to stop by a tank-station and fetch a Orhan Gencebay cd. As he was by now a tolerant politician he wanted to catch up the things he lost in the last half of a century. The driver looked with astonished eyes and did what it’s told.
In the beginning of the CD Orhan Gencebay was talking about his music life and before singing his “Batsin bu dünya – let this world sink” classic he was saying “Daha güzel, daha mutlu, daha adil sevgi dolu bir dünya icin, baris icin, insanlik icin batsin bu dünya – For a better, for a happier, for a juster love-full world, for peace, for humanity let this world sink”. Deniz Baykal liked this, and as Orhan Gencebay was “the” popular guy in town, why not he wouldnt be the same. He called the party headquarters and told them to print a big poster saying – ulusal birligimiz icin, bayragimiz icin, özgürce ibadet icin, baris ve kardeslik icin, laik demokratik türkiye icin CHP’Ye – for our national unity, for our flag, for the right to prey freely, for a secular democratic Turkey votes to CHP”. The party members were found of this new idea and the new opening.
Later he went to the Sultanbeyli municipality in Istanbul, one of the castles of the AKP in Istanbul. First time in the history of the RPP, Deniz Baykal was hand in hand with the people which he opposed for a short time, the religious-conservative circles and women with headscarf. As i said, Deniz Baykal changed a lot since the morning. Behind the talking scene, he had his new poster and a big laugh in his face. Yeah the story of the metamorphosis
Iceman Talks Cold: Turkish Chief of Staff Ilker Basbug’s comments on the Aktütün incident
Ilker Basbug, the Chief of Staff of the Turkish Armed forces is portrayed as the “iceman” and someone who does not like to speak alot in public. However, following the critical attitude of the media concerning the Aktütün incident which took place on 3rd of October, in which the Turkish Armed forces lost 17 soldiers, General Basbug faced the cameras and gave an extraordinary harsh speech. The Turkish daily “Taraf” which began to search the reasons behind the devastating attack on the frontier outpost began its stance first by showing the head of the Air Forces playing golf while the incident was taking place. Yesterday, the “Taraf” took the incident again to its headlines and this tiem claimed that the attack was well known by the Turkish armed forces before it took place. The newspaper also used video footage from the Heron pilotless airplane cameras. In these footage it is visible that the PKK was building its forces behind the lines in attack positions.
Org. Basbug, commented today on the incident with a harsh tone. He said that those who leaked these documents and those who used it will be sued. and anybody who illustrates PKK’s attacks as success will be a partner in crime of the blood that would be spilled.
This was the second blow to the Turkish army, after the photos of the Head of the Air Forces playing golf during the incident. The credibility of the army, which was immune from critique up till today, nevertheless took a harsh blow. but nevertheless, the mainstream media continues to halt a blind eye attitude.
The Mad Songs of Fernanda Hussein and Naseer Shamma
The Mad Songs of Fernanda Hussein is an independent film produced in 2001 by the American director John Gianvito. The film explains simultaneously three stories – during and just in the aftermath of the Gulf War- one the story of Fernanda Hussein and her sister and son, the other Raphael a highschool student, and the war veteran Carlos both living in New Mexico.
The story of Fernanda Hussein is by far the saddest of all, before the first Gulf War beings, the locals write xenophobic graffiti’s on Fernanda’s home wall. Fernanda, a Mexican-American is married to an Egyptian man who went back to Egypt to find a job and left Fernanda with her two children. The story gets tense, after the two do not come back from the school. We see at the beginning of the film, the corpses of two children slowly sliding on the river and we can discern that they are indeed Fernanda’s children, attacked by locals due to their name “Hussein” a direct connotation with Saddam the Hussein.
Raphael, comes from a upper middle class, a-politic family, and he tries to understand the meaning of war, and through his critical teacher he develops a hatred to the passivity of the population towards the war. and engages in peace activism. His endevaours and the mix feelings paves the way to intense discussions with his parents. In one discussion, the camera captures Raphael’s father working while eating his breakfast, whereas the mother playing the girly role in the kitchen. the house is tip-top and everything is just like in those ikea catalogues. raphael is deeply annoyed by the fact that even his family cannot understand the meaning of war and urge him to go back to his normal life and not to meddle with these political ideas.
Whereas Fernanda virtually goes mad and begins to live in the mountains, Raphael leaves his home and begins to live the life of a aimless looser. his contact with the peace movement in a way changes his life, and gives him a reason to live.
Carlos, is deeply traumatised during the war, and at home he is welcomed as a hero, with the curious question of how many Iraqis he killed. he tries to go back to normal life, but his former chief already installed a new worker in his position and refuses to take him back. completely disoriented, Carlos meets his girlfriend and in the desert tells him his traumas during the war. fernanda’s cries stop him to rape his girlfriend.
The film is interrupted by the songs of Iraqi oud player Nasser Shamma. Shamma’s song “Happened at al-Amiriyya,” is especially the most shocking and wonderful piece i have heard int he last times. The piece is composed in the aftermath of the coalition forces’ namely the US bombing al-Amiriyya shelter on February 13, 1991, iwhich put an end to the lives of 400 Iraqi women and children. Shamma’s oud becomes the camera, and the music takes u to the atrocities. especially his sliding technique to echo the sirens, and the flamenco like moves to echo the bombing is by one word extraordinary. you can feel the hapiness before the bombing in the shelter, like lullabies and the chaos, the bombings the cries and the sadness in its aftermath.
the film also shows historical footage from the CNN and other tv channel’s portrayal of the coming back of the troops.
7.9 over 10
a good film, but extremely depressive which is good and necessary.
Documentary on the Turkish nationalists and their ties with the Gladio
again done by Can Dündar
part 1:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1669392044515750448&ei=6ujLSMrGAY6k2AK_taXLAg&q=can+d%C3%BCndar&vt=lf
Part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1669392044515750448&ei=6ujLSMrGAY6k2AK_taXLAg&q=can+d%C3%BCndar&vt=lf
part 3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1669392044515750448&ei=6ujLSMrGAY6k2AK_taXLAg&q=can+d%C3%BCndar&vt=lf
Especially important is Erol Mütercimler’s inputs concerning the army’s ties witht the Gladio
ps: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=can+d%C3%BCndar&emb=0#
on other members
mehmet agar
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5823852813384236741&ei=zunLSOn5L6K02wLy0JzGAg&q=can+d%C3%BCndar
devlet bahceli
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=402199774824922033&hl=en
16 Mart 1978 -March 16,1978 Istanbul University massacre
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5361446553804489769&ei=guvLSO6iJaXC2gKqi6XPAg&q=can+d%C3%BCndar
Operation Gladio: NATO’s Secret Armies
the first of the 15 part documentation by the bbc
